With such a fantastic fall happening all across Oklahoma at the moment, social media is abuzz with optimistic outlooks for the coming winter.

While we're still dry, farmers are expecting snow and ice along with cooler temperatures. City-folk are both dreading and looking forward to the premise of a winter wonderland, but an equal amount of people in the comments are predicting that all forecasts will be wrong - business as usual.

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How it's supposed to work.

If you were to cut open a persimmon seed, you'd see the cotyledon takes a certain shape. Sometimes it's a knife, a spoon, or a fork.

In the persimmon seed lore, a knife shape indicates brutally cold weather. Spoons mean lots of snow. Forks represent mild weather.

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Last year the persimmon seeds across Oklahoma showed a spoon, supposedly meaning we were in for lots of snow. There was even a TikTok meteorologist who called for a "Big Daddy Snow Storm" at some point throughout the winter months... but looking back at the two weeks of cold weather, it was a perpetual Spring for the most part from October to June.

What does the persimmon say about Winter 2024-2025?

Well, nobody can agree on what is in the works for Oklahoma this winter.

If you click here to check out the first persimmon seed of the season over on the Oklahoma Gardening Facebook page, it's a spork.

While the comments are full of logical arguments about how it's a fork, I can't help but see two overlapping spoons. That's not to say Oklahoma will see big snows, we had a clearly defined spoon this time last year... but maybe it's more or less taking the seriousness out of this fun tradition of an old wives tale.

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